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- Grijze Muis
- Berichten: 3936
- Lid geworden op: zondag 16 maart 2008, 21:55:18
- Locatie: Workum
In Schotland bij de Visarend zijn er twee jongen.
Er waren 3 eieren, twee uitgekomen, een jong overleden door voedselgebrek en slechte weersomstandigheden, twee dagen daarna kwam het derde ei uit en zijn er weer twee jongen. Groeien voorspoedig zo te zien.
Verhaal uit schotland.
22 May 2009
It has been a very eventful and hectic week here so the best place for me to start would be where I left off on Saturday 16 May. On Sunday at around 3 pm we were a bit concerned when the male returned to the nest and started making alarm calls whilst looking down below the nest. This led us to believe that there was either an unwanted predator stalking below the nest or someone was out for a stroll and perhaps unaware that there was an osprey nest above them. We then spent the nest hour watching him and driving around to ensure there was no-one near the nest. He seemed to calm down after circling around the nest a few times before finally leaving to perch on a tree close by. The presence of deer on our excursions around the reserve told us that there was no-one nearby as the deer would have been scared off by any walkers. This left us at a bit of a loss about what caused the male to react in this way. The male had brought in fish at noon and at 4:15 pm and the female was feeding the chicks but unfortunately, as had been from the start, the first chick appeared to be getting the majority of the food. The following day the female started to act odd in the morning and behaving the same way as the male had done. When she flew off and returned we soon discovered what had caused all the commotion the day before. It was not a predator or human presence which got the male so riled up, it was simply that he had dropped a fish down the side of the nest and could not get to it. He certainly gave us something to think about!
The mother and chicks were fed both in the morning and the evening on the 18th but by then the second chick was already getting incredibly weak and the lack of food the next day combined with the bad weather we were experiencing did not help matters. Unfortunately the youngest chick passed away at around mid-day which left everyone upset and concerned for the wellbeing of the remaining chick if the weather did not improve to provide the male with the right conditions to fish. The male did bring in three fish later that evening between 4:45 pm and 9:25 pm but it was all too little to late for the youngest chick.
Our sorrow was replaced with joy on the morning of the 20th when our third egg hatched. We noticed a crack in the egg on Monday 18 May but it had taken two days for the little chick to finally muster all its strength and break free form the shell at 8:25 am. The mother and the first chick were fed at 5:12 am and it was just a matter of time before the male would return with a fish for the newly born chick. Weather conditions were ideal for fishing and it was a beautiful day so we had great expectations for this chick if the weather remained good. We waited in anticipation all day, constantly reassuring ourselves that he would come in with a fish soon, but it never came. We were seriously concerned for the chicks wellbeing by tea-time because there was still no fish in sight although the male had returned twice to the nest empty handed so we knew there was nothing wrong with the male. By 9:50 pmhe finally brought in a very small fish but the female only fed herself and the oldest chick. The lack of fishing by the male recently has concerned us slightly but the female has certainly seemed to have had a good word with him because over the last few days he has been returning with quite a few fish and both chicks are getting fed and looking healthy. She has even had to leave parts of the fish for later because she is getting too much food to eat in one go so hopefully her stern words have kicked him into shape and he will bring in fish more regularly.
Er waren 3 eieren, twee uitgekomen, een jong overleden door voedselgebrek en slechte weersomstandigheden, twee dagen daarna kwam het derde ei uit en zijn er weer twee jongen. Groeien voorspoedig zo te zien.
Verhaal uit schotland.
22 May 2009
It has been a very eventful and hectic week here so the best place for me to start would be where I left off on Saturday 16 May. On Sunday at around 3 pm we were a bit concerned when the male returned to the nest and started making alarm calls whilst looking down below the nest. This led us to believe that there was either an unwanted predator stalking below the nest or someone was out for a stroll and perhaps unaware that there was an osprey nest above them. We then spent the nest hour watching him and driving around to ensure there was no-one near the nest. He seemed to calm down after circling around the nest a few times before finally leaving to perch on a tree close by. The presence of deer on our excursions around the reserve told us that there was no-one nearby as the deer would have been scared off by any walkers. This left us at a bit of a loss about what caused the male to react in this way. The male had brought in fish at noon and at 4:15 pm and the female was feeding the chicks but unfortunately, as had been from the start, the first chick appeared to be getting the majority of the food. The following day the female started to act odd in the morning and behaving the same way as the male had done. When she flew off and returned we soon discovered what had caused all the commotion the day before. It was not a predator or human presence which got the male so riled up, it was simply that he had dropped a fish down the side of the nest and could not get to it. He certainly gave us something to think about!
The mother and chicks were fed both in the morning and the evening on the 18th but by then the second chick was already getting incredibly weak and the lack of food the next day combined with the bad weather we were experiencing did not help matters. Unfortunately the youngest chick passed away at around mid-day which left everyone upset and concerned for the wellbeing of the remaining chick if the weather did not improve to provide the male with the right conditions to fish. The male did bring in three fish later that evening between 4:45 pm and 9:25 pm but it was all too little to late for the youngest chick.
Our sorrow was replaced with joy on the morning of the 20th when our third egg hatched. We noticed a crack in the egg on Monday 18 May but it had taken two days for the little chick to finally muster all its strength and break free form the shell at 8:25 am. The mother and the first chick were fed at 5:12 am and it was just a matter of time before the male would return with a fish for the newly born chick. Weather conditions were ideal for fishing and it was a beautiful day so we had great expectations for this chick if the weather remained good. We waited in anticipation all day, constantly reassuring ourselves that he would come in with a fish soon, but it never came. We were seriously concerned for the chicks wellbeing by tea-time because there was still no fish in sight although the male had returned twice to the nest empty handed so we knew there was nothing wrong with the male. By 9:50 pmhe finally brought in a very small fish but the female only fed herself and the oldest chick. The lack of fishing by the male recently has concerned us slightly but the female has certainly seemed to have had a good word with him because over the last few days he has been returning with quite a few fish and both chicks are getting fed and looking healthy. She has even had to leave parts of the fish for later because she is getting too much food to eat in one go so hopefully her stern words have kicked him into shape and he will bring in fish more regularly.
De zon schijnt altijd
- Grijze Muis
- Berichten: 3936
- Lid geworden op: zondag 16 maart 2008, 21:55:18
- Locatie: Workum
Ik maak me wel zorgen over de derde vogel, die nog niet gevlogen heeft, volgens mij.
Zijn linker poot is volgens mij niet in orde. Ik heb vanmorgen een mailtje gestuurd met bovenstaande campics. Ik zag maar één emailadres, ik hoop dat dat het goede is. Ik wacht maar even af.
Met de andere twee gaat het goed, deze heeft volgens mij zelf wat meegebracht, het lijkt wel een aardappel
Zijn linker poot is volgens mij niet in orde. Ik heb vanmorgen een mailtje gestuurd met bovenstaande campics. Ik zag maar één emailadres, ik hoop dat dat het goede is. Ik wacht maar even af.
Met de andere twee gaat het goed, deze heeft volgens mij zelf wat meegebracht, het lijkt wel een aardappel
- roosje
- Berichten: 18549
- Lid geworden op: woensdag 19 december 2007, 10:00:17
- Locatie: Belgie
- Contacteer:
Neeltje jammer dat je nog niks gehoord hebt. Ik heb me er ook maar tegenaan bemoeit en wat mails naar diverse sponsors gestuurd. Misschien dat ze nu wel reageren. Je moet er niet aan denken dat deze vogel dadelijk alleen achterblijft op het nest. Hij kan misschien wel vliegen maar vis vangen zit er niet in met 1 poot.
- roosje
- Berichten: 18549
- Lid geworden op: woensdag 19 december 2007, 10:00:17
- Locatie: Belgie
- Contacteer:
Ik heb er maar een video van gemaakt. De vogel probeert te vliegen maar komt niet weg.
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- roosje
- Berichten: 18549
- Lid geworden op: woensdag 19 december 2007, 10:00:17
- Locatie: Belgie
- Contacteer:
Ik heb zo net een e-mail ontvangen, hier kun je lezen wat er "gedaan zal worden"
Ze zijn er gelukkig wel mee bezig en houden het dus ook in de gaten.
Thank you for your Sksi e-mail!
There has been alot of conversation in Hailuoto and Oulu area about the ospreys and helping the little osprey with the leg.
Here is a osprey letter of a senior advisor and head of the biodiversity group in North Ostrobothnia regional Environment centre (NOREC).
--
Sincerely Yours,
Kati Lusikka
Hailuoto Tourist Office
www.hailuototourism.fi
> I'm working as a senior advisor and head of the biodiversity group in North Ostrobothnia regional Environment Centre (NOREC). Our centre is the legalregional authority concerning bird protection under Finnish Nature Conservation Act.
>
> We have lately received several emails concerning the injured young osprey in Hailuoto webcam nest. We have been asked to save the bird, take it to the bird hospital/zoo, or even to euthanize it. It has been fine to see, how much people around the world really do care about the birds.
>
> However, so far our opinion has been that the best we can do is to leave the young osprey alone. That does not mean we wouldn't care about the welfare of the bird; as any friend of the nature, we feel sorry for him too.
I have emailed and discussed with several experts about the osprey; ornithologists, osprey researchers and veterinarian who is expert in wild animals (in Helsinki Zoo, which is the leading organization what comes to the care of the injured wild animals in Finland).
All the experts do have the same opinion: right now the best thing we can do is to do nothing. The osprey really gets the best care it can ever have.
>
> There is no bird hospital in Finland which could take good care of the ospreys: they don't do well in captivity, even there might be some single positive examples. The policy in wildlife care in Helsinki Zoo is that an animal is been taken to the zoo only if it can be cured and returned to the nature or if there can be found a zoo or another place which meets the specific requirements of the species.
Otherwise the animal is euthanized, which is of course the most merciful thing to do in that kind of situation. But as said, for ospreys there are not suitable places in Finland, so the only alternative in this case would be euthanasia. The injured leg cannot be healed either.
>
> And even if we think the zoo or similar place could be a fine
> solution, it might not be so from the bird's point of view. It is not
> easy for the wild animals to get used to captivity, they are easily
> stressed. For example it has been researched that stress hormone
> levels of the captivated birds are often high for a long time,
> indicating hard life. We also think dying of hunger would be terrible,
> but actually it is not painful at all, just fading
away. And the truth is, animals don't think and feel like we humans do.
>
> There is also the question when we should intervene: if the bird would really suffer and be in pain, then we should react even according to the Nature Conservation Act. So far the chick is doing well in nest, eating and wingercising. Normal risk of being predated does not give us the right to take the wild animal from nest into stressful captivity.
In general, predation, diseases and accidents are a normal life in the nature, and reacting to one single case does not change the fact there are thousands of other similar, even worse cases. This is the problem of webcams, they show life as it is. As ecologists we should understand that this is how the nature works. In this nest there is already two young birds flying, which is actually a good situation.
>
> The future of the young osprey is still open: we do not yet know, if it is able to fly and leave the nest, perhaps not, but let us give the chick a chance. In NOREC we will follow the situation and if it seems the chick will not survive, we'll re-consider our actions.
>
But for now, we will let the young osprey live free life worth wild osprey.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
Tupuna Kovanen
North Ostrobothnia Regional Environment Centre Senior Advisor, head of the biodiversity group
Ze zijn er gelukkig wel mee bezig en houden het dus ook in de gaten.
Thank you for your Sksi e-mail!
There has been alot of conversation in Hailuoto and Oulu area about the ospreys and helping the little osprey with the leg.
Here is a osprey letter of a senior advisor and head of the biodiversity group in North Ostrobothnia regional Environment centre (NOREC).
--
Sincerely Yours,
Kati Lusikka
Hailuoto Tourist Office
www.hailuototourism.fi
> I'm working as a senior advisor and head of the biodiversity group in North Ostrobothnia regional Environment Centre (NOREC). Our centre is the legalregional authority concerning bird protection under Finnish Nature Conservation Act.
>
> We have lately received several emails concerning the injured young osprey in Hailuoto webcam nest. We have been asked to save the bird, take it to the bird hospital/zoo, or even to euthanize it. It has been fine to see, how much people around the world really do care about the birds.
>
> However, so far our opinion has been that the best we can do is to leave the young osprey alone. That does not mean we wouldn't care about the welfare of the bird; as any friend of the nature, we feel sorry for him too.
I have emailed and discussed with several experts about the osprey; ornithologists, osprey researchers and veterinarian who is expert in wild animals (in Helsinki Zoo, which is the leading organization what comes to the care of the injured wild animals in Finland).
All the experts do have the same opinion: right now the best thing we can do is to do nothing. The osprey really gets the best care it can ever have.
>
> There is no bird hospital in Finland which could take good care of the ospreys: they don't do well in captivity, even there might be some single positive examples. The policy in wildlife care in Helsinki Zoo is that an animal is been taken to the zoo only if it can be cured and returned to the nature or if there can be found a zoo or another place which meets the specific requirements of the species.
Otherwise the animal is euthanized, which is of course the most merciful thing to do in that kind of situation. But as said, for ospreys there are not suitable places in Finland, so the only alternative in this case would be euthanasia. The injured leg cannot be healed either.
>
> And even if we think the zoo or similar place could be a fine
> solution, it might not be so from the bird's point of view. It is not
> easy for the wild animals to get used to captivity, they are easily
> stressed. For example it has been researched that stress hormone
> levels of the captivated birds are often high for a long time,
> indicating hard life. We also think dying of hunger would be terrible,
> but actually it is not painful at all, just fading
away. And the truth is, animals don't think and feel like we humans do.
>
> There is also the question when we should intervene: if the bird would really suffer and be in pain, then we should react even according to the Nature Conservation Act. So far the chick is doing well in nest, eating and wingercising. Normal risk of being predated does not give us the right to take the wild animal from nest into stressful captivity.
In general, predation, diseases and accidents are a normal life in the nature, and reacting to one single case does not change the fact there are thousands of other similar, even worse cases. This is the problem of webcams, they show life as it is. As ecologists we should understand that this is how the nature works. In this nest there is already two young birds flying, which is actually a good situation.
>
> The future of the young osprey is still open: we do not yet know, if it is able to fly and leave the nest, perhaps not, but let us give the chick a chance. In NOREC we will follow the situation and if it seems the chick will not survive, we'll re-consider our actions.
>
But for now, we will let the young osprey live free life worth wild osprey.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
Tupuna Kovanen
North Ostrobothnia Regional Environment Centre Senior Advisor, head of the biodiversity group
- roosje
- Berichten: 18549
- Lid geworden op: woensdag 19 december 2007, 10:00:17
- Locatie: Belgie
- Contacteer:
Barbara,
Hij zit niet vast dat kan je ook zien op de campics die Neeltje heeft geplaatst. En op de webcambeelden is me ook niet opgevallen dat ie vast zit. Nee hij heeft echt een verwonding aan zijn poot. Ik denk iets in het gewricht. En al zou hij nog kunnen gaan vliegen dan is vissen vangen dadelijk een nog groter probleem. Zeker als dadelijk de ouders naar Afrika vertrekken.
Hij zit niet vast dat kan je ook zien op de campics die Neeltje heeft geplaatst. En op de webcambeelden is me ook niet opgevallen dat ie vast zit. Nee hij heeft echt een verwonding aan zijn poot. Ik denk iets in het gewricht. En al zou hij nog kunnen gaan vliegen dan is vissen vangen dadelijk een nog groter probleem. Zeker als dadelijk de ouders naar Afrika vertrekken.
- roosje
- Berichten: 18549
- Lid geworden op: woensdag 19 december 2007, 10:00:17
- Locatie: Belgie
- Contacteer:
Nest nieuws
11.8.2009 Third chick's maiden flight
Beelden van vanmorgen rond 11.00 uur
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11.8.2009 Third chick's maiden flight
Beelden van vanmorgen rond 11.00 uur
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